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To: karron@mcard27.med.nyu.edu (Dan Karron karron@nyu.edu)
Subject: Re: Software Cleanup
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Dec 1994 18:53:00 EST."
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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 1994 23:40:04 -0500
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> Dear Karl and other TeX hackers...
>
> Whata a MESS !!
Well its not perfect but...
> IRIX 4.05 install out of the box de-novo does not work for various
> reasons...
I didn't have any problems with IRIX 5.2. Some caveats though --- I used
web2c-6.1 but patched for the latest kpathsea using the procedure given in
web2c-kpathsea-2.4.help. I just went to the top level directory and typed...
CC=/bin/cc ./configure
Everything compiled fine. The triptrap tests were OK. The formats built Ok.
The install worked fine.
> 1) Karl: you need a set of variables in the makefiles that give a install
> path for mf and tex bootstrapping, i.e., when you run them for the first
> time before the files are installed in the installation directories.
>
> Also, an insidious problem is that on re-installs, your pool and format
> images will use sources in the OLD, installed directory before the newer
> sources to be dump/imaged are made. This can mean for insidious verions
> conflicts. so for TEXPOOL, you should have a variable TEXPOOL_BOOTSTRAP,
> that points to the local, uninstalled files.
Well I'm pretty sure the INSTALL instructions say to install the sources
before building the formats. If thats not convenient then the texmf
enviroment variables can be set to point to the appropriate places.
However I must agree that this could be a real pitfall unless you know about
this stuff though I would have thought the pool and format sources to be
pretty much set in concrete by this time.
> Configure should be able to search reasonable places for directories that
> look like they have appropriate files if you don't say where to put stuff.
It does seem to do this (well the patched version does), by seeing if you have
an existing tex and using its path. I didnt give any --prefix to configure
and it put everything in out non-standard /local/TeX. Besides the
instructions clearly say that you should edit make/paths.make in the top level
directory, and that you should give a --prefix to configure.
> Finally, gcc seems to have some math/arithmitic problems, in that mf
> compiled with gcc on IRIX 4.05 is failing for
I must say that I too have had problems with gcc-2.6.0 and xdvik under
IRIX5.2. Much as I want to see gcc stable I dont have time to track these
things down so now I always say CC=/bin/cc ./configure.
> So, I am rerunning with SGI cc, but then strong type checking causes
> ...[examples deleted]...
> This should be fixed by .configure
I see none of these errors under IRIX5.2
> Sheesh... All I started out trying to do was upgrade my TeX instllation, but
> I see that this is turning into a career path.
I know exactly how you feel. The problem I have is with the different
versions of kpathsea running around. The stock web2c-6.1 comes with an old
kpathsea, and the latest versions of xdvik and dvipsk use the newest (which
allows texmf.cfg customization). I also have had problems with MakeTeXPK
incompatibilities --- when I installed dvipsk-5.58b the new MakeTeXPK didn't
work with the installed xdvik-1.8. When I tried to install xdvik-18d I ran
into problems with gs getting bad color properties (see my previous post).
> I hope that we can get to a new release soon as soon as we agree how to
> rework the makefiles...
Try the kpathsea-2.4 patch to web2c-6.1, and maybe upgrade to IRIX5.2 as well.
Now if only someone will tell me how to get xdvik-18d talking to gs properly.